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Hey Jack, may I ask that you export rows from the community table? (Ideally, it'd be nice to have seeds of all data but I understand if that'd be too much to ask.) I'm going to create E2E tests using Cypress as I refactor the code.
any time — though I get the impression we are in quite different time zones…
Alright! Thanks. :D
thanks for sticking with this btw :)
does that make sense?
authorization is than handled by the api based on the auth cookie
there are only two 'real' database users apart from the superuser
pg_hba.conf: ``` #TYPE DATABASE USER CIDR-ADDRESS METHOD local all postgres ident map=map local postgres get trust local postgres post trust ```
Hey @Jack — Is it correct that topanswers.xyz uses peer authentication to connect to the database?
GitHub is misbehaving today
Yes. Some people on SE have been jumping around to dozens of rooms, posting a message here and there on occasion. Actively leaving a room is useful.
https://topanswers.xyz/meta?q=505#a621
if you don't chat in a room for long enough it won't show anymore
Is it possible to leave a room?
Thank you for listening. I'm way beyond bedtime too. Sleep well!
I've run out of day, thanks for all your help and input today. It's really useful
How about letting `…` open a menu that shows all items at once — with visible labels for what the buttons do?
and the 'edit' icon and 'history' icon occupy the same slot
as much as possible
there will probably end up being more lesser-used functions in there over time
@Jack It bothers me a bit that the very often used chat msgs reply arrow changes position based on the length of the message. Wouldn't it be better to have all the controls flush right? Also, why the `…` as the 4th icon only to reveal a 4th icon?
OK, I've [logged](https://github.com/topanswers/topanswers/issues/35) the issue.
@Jack Can you erase all my messages in the Sandbox?
Huh, it needed a page refresh to render my first messages.
@Jack Is it intentional that I can't write anything to the Sandbox chat?
That'd subtly indicate that it relates to the left pane.
True, but how about if you align the search box so its right edge is just above the splitter?
But "correctly too", I mean because the top bar is *incorrect* in being separate from chat, in that it relates to TA as a whole (to which chat belongs) and to my profile (which is used in chat too).
maybe you are right, we will definitely give this some more thought
Ah right, on edit pages. Even more reason to have to full-width throughout.
it's full width on various other pages
the plus side is that it helps delineate the Q&A and the chat
I admit the inconsistency there
topanswers.xyz has a full-width top bar, and if you really want to keep the feeling of a single site with various subject areas (as opposed to SE that really has the feeling of multiple sites) then I think that top bar should be the one constant anchor point.
hmm, well I'm mostly with you on the objective ones (just not the full width top bar) and sympathetic on the others — the only one with a concrete plan is to have visible drag handles on the the central resizer.
Among more subjective things are the harsh contrasts, unnecessary borders, and lack of a dark theme.
Some of each. E.g. the draggable borders to resize Q-vs-chat and notifications-vs-messages and the click-to-zoom divider between room icons and user icons are objectively hard to discover (and for the notifications-vs-messages, even hard to hit). The top bar not going across the whole screen is more subjective, but also somewhat misleading, as it includes my profile icon which *does* apply to both Q&A and chat. Same with the equally thick Q-vs-chat border and chat-vs-rooms area which doesn't signal that the rooms area only relates to the chat.
Suggestion: 
Exactly. Use title and cursor changes everywhere, but don't *rely* on them.
well it is a useful hint — you wouldn't want to remove 'title' attributes entirely, just not make reading them *essential*, right?
Maybe if you keep the selector as no, but put additional rooms' icons right-justified.
especially if the pointer changes on hover
dunno about discoverability — people tend to click on things they can see
didn't check which message you replied to!
I yes I see where I went wrong
I'd forgotten about the other
oh that's confusing — I was almost exclusively talking about the chat room purpose notification
That'd be confusing, I think, since not everyone in the room would see the same "messages".
We're having two parallel conversations. One is about chat room purpose notification and the other about room icons.
from 'community' or something
how about a 'fake' chat message?
I think inside is better, as the word "this" points at the actual chat area and not at the UI, and keeps the UI more consistent instead of "jumping" the input pane down.
so squash the chat pane up a bit and put the message vertically below
Sounds good (one less click) but again, discoverability without hover would plummet.
or even before the chat pane entirely, just under where you type?
Clear an area below the last message.
it should probably be a sort of banner then instead of just blurb in the middle of that area
display if never chatted in a question room?
Yes, making it even more likely that they're going to see a used chat (by opening an existing question) before they see an empty one.
we can't clutter up the interface for the rest of us so would need to find a way of displaying the message only to those who need it
I'm thinking of swapping out the room selector below for a line of room icons for the site rooms
@Jack When no messages have been written to a post chat room, the text: > This is a dedicated room for discussion about this question. > > You can direct a comment to the question poster (or any answer poster) via the 'comment' link under their post. is shown, but this text is pretty important even for users joining the room after active chat has begun.
[Suggested icon](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Edit_In_Sandbox_Icon_-_Color.svg)
done
that's a great idea!
@Jack Chat room request for Meta: Sandbox (to test chat features) like https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1/sandbox
because .se is actually a valid domain
it does only for a defined list of sites
indeed it should but when we fix that it will fix your message retrospectively :)
Uh, `nnnn.SE` should expand to `.stackexchange.com`!
That'd be a good place for a community notice like the one on codegolf.SE and judaism.SE
In the area above the Q&A where is says 'questions' right now, I'd like to see community branding and perhaps more
I agree, but it sure has lots of links to various info. (Oh, the community notice isn't part of the top bar, btw.)
That's odd, my previous message is so long that it gets its own scroll bar, but if I scroll it, the whole chat pane gets blurred.