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Caleb
What should we use for this site's identicon (also used for the top level site chat)?
samcarter
# TeX Tophat

![tophat.png](/image?hash=4f21c2725250fcebe340cfb3b6786114fe6867f19d3512e448a2836d313a1012)

PNG with 24px:


\documentclass[margin=0.3mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{tikz}

\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}
\begin{scope}[transform shape,rotate=-17.5,font=\sffamily]

% brim
\fill[black] (0.62, 0.66) .. controls (0.62, 0.52) and (0.34, 0.37) .. (0, 0.37) .. controls (-0.34, 0.37) and (-0.62, 0.52) .. (-0.62, 0.66) .. controls (-0.62, 0.8) and (-0.34, 0.7) .. (0, 0.7) .. controls (0.34, 0.7) and (0.62, 0.8) .. (0.62, 0.66) -- cycle;

% top ellipse
\fill[black] (0,1.13) ellipse (0.42 and 0.1);
\fill[black] (-0.37,0.61) -- (0.37,0.61) -- (0.42,1.13) -- (-0.42,1.13) -- cycle;

% bottom ellipse
\fill[black] (0,0.61) ellipse (0.37 and 0.1);

% text
\begin{scope}[yshift=-0.05cm]
\node[white] at (-0.2,0.92) {T};
\node[white] at (-0.04,0.84) {E};
\node[white] at (0.16,0.92) {X};
\end{scope}

\end{scope}
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}


The tophat can also be combined with colour:

![tophat.png](/image?hash=028f37099069675c4afcf78887be066244c4996aec0a8c7a19be3ddf669e6a1f)

PNG with 24px:

![TeXlogo_tophat_24px.png](/image?hash=080707628a7a4433a980790b315d225836fdb522a4b1c990c886dabae40d391c)


\documentclass[margin=0.3mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{tikz}
\definecolor{dred}{RGB}{159,57,61}

\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}
\begin{scope}[transform shape,rotate=-17.5,font=\sffamily]

% brim
\fill[black] (0.62, 0.66) .. controls (0.62, 0.52) and (0.34, 0.37) .. (0, 0.37) .. controls (-0.34, 0.37) and (-0.62, 0.52) .. (-0.62, 0.66) .. controls (-0.62, 0.8) and (-0.34, 0.7) .. (0, 0.7) .. controls (0.34, 0.7) and (0.62, 0.8) .. (0.62, 0.66) -- cycle;

% top ellipse
\fill[black] (0,1.13) ellipse (0.42 and 0.1);
\fill[black] (-0.37,0.61) -- (0.37,0.61) -- (0.42,1.13) -- (-0.42,1.13) -- cycle;

% bottom ellipse
\fill[dred] (0,0.61) ellipse (0.37 and 0.1);
\fill[dred] (-0.37,0.61) -- (0.37,0.61) -- (0.38,0.73) -- (-0.38,0.73) -- cycle;

% cutout
\fill[black] (0,0.73) ellipse (0.38 and 0.1);

% text
\node[white] at (-0.2,0.92) {T};
\node[white] at (-0.04,0.84) {E};
\node[white] at (0.16,0.92) {X};

\end{scope}
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}

Raaja
[Latex lion](https://ctan.org/lion?lang=en)
samcarter
# TeX Speech Ballon

![logo.svg](/image?hash=c62d45c38b9e559d4ddc0a6978e9231620d91935384662681f9aa0b8c0fa5474)

This would be a simple icon for most situations and could be combined with e.g. ducksay, tikzducks or tikzlings if we need some funny image somewhere.

PNG with 24px:


Skillmon
# A Small Duck Saying "TeX"

Since the CM font used by \tiny is created to be readable at tiny sizes, I figured it might be a good idea to use it and scale it up.

tex
\documentclass[]{standalone}
\usepackage{ducksay}
\usepackage{xcolor}
\usepackage[]{graphicx}
\definecolor{dred}{RGB}{159,57,61}
{ \
>()_
(__)__}
\def\arraystretch{0.8}
\begin{document}
\ducksay
[%
bubble-bot-kern=3.1pt
]
{\kern-2.5pt\raisebox{4pt}{\scalebox{3.4}{\TeX}}\kern-2.5pt}%
\end{document}


PNG at 300dpi:

![TeXlogo_smallduck_300dpi.png](/image?hash=7abaef46801cd66a363c5f6a74f17e88972f5ced66e4cfda7a553590321dfd66)

PNG with 24px:

![TeXlogo_smallduck_24px.png](/image?hash=3b9b2255dee8fce150b0fa1ec930d096e9e87b41eed3bcb9c117aa075da97f35)

---

tex
\documentclass[]{standalone}
\usepackage{ducksay}
\usepackage{xcolor}
\definecolor{dred}{RGB}{159,57,61}
{ \
>()_
(__)__}
\def\arraystretch{0.8}
\begin{document}
\ducksay
[%
bubble-bot-kern=3.1pt
]
{\raisebox{.5pt}{\TeX}}%
\end{document}


PNG at 300dpi:

![TeXlogo_smallduck_300dpi.png](/image?hash=6c3086701109b151b66c6d44ef46fbd7fa771497343559d9f6ccbfaf6492b547)

PNG with 24px:

![TeXlogo_smallduck_24px.png](/image?hash=57a075031245112b55b94b4c5a0026c859a091e617fbe07840342f4404774f30)
Caleb
# A Duck

For example DEK duck.

...because [ducks](https://github.com/samcarter/tikzducks).

Transparent DEK at 300dpi:

Transparent DEK with 24px:

![topanswerstex24px.png](/image?hash=50cad760a7f29881d74878120091c6ff2262da103dbb6e9d2ee29b1590769787)
samcarter
# The TeX Logo

The plain and simple TeX logo in a colour of our choice (the red  shown here is just an example to match the site colour):

![document.png](/image?hash=1e1ed6ee65f222fb8541f2436c886c261c2879d8fe62ea9f08dc9259bfdf2c0b)

PNG with 24px:

![TeXlogo_tex_24px.png](/image?hash=f4d41d567713a897e9896990fc0ed0d3335f611362726523798eb5c96c409150)


\documentclass[margin=3mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{xcolor}
\definecolor{dred}{RGB}{159,57,61}
\begin{document}
\color{dred}\Huge \TeX
\end{document}

marmot
# A Snow(wo)man

...because TeX is cool. The top hat is shamelessly stolen from [samcarter's answer](https://topanswers.xyz/tex?q=350#a360), and the snow man from their package.


\documentclass[tikz, border=3mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{tikzlings}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}
\snowman[tophat=black!90!white,scale=1.1111]
\node[text=white,rotate=-15] at (0.18,2.4) {\TeX};
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}


![Screen Shot 2019-12-06 at 4.53.40 PM.png](/image?hash=5e6bba9800fce81902685d15d4d4d4448df7d74e3718aacb527b64f5408af660)

PNG with 24px:

![TeXlogo_snowman_24px.png](/image?hash=56d4628b66bfffbc0fa1526ea65ac282f41960da54183a25648bbcf522a730eb)
Skillmon
# A Duck Saying "TeX"

![TeXlogo-1.png](/image?hash=c1c8e8fcbb9f1139e9a6f7dd90f29e08584cdf7fe07553e1f7e9f660a812c32d).

PNG with 24px:

![TeXlogo_ducksay_24px.png](/image?hash=75c6607854d87b19a2050043c37c83017a4cb47edc9621000dd4c38ddc50cfd4)

tex
\documentclass[margin=3.14]{standalone}
\usepackage{ducksay}
\usepackage{xcolor}
\definecolor{dred}{RGB}{159,57,61}
\begin{document}
\end{document}

Skillmon
# TeX logo with question mark

I created this with legebility in mind, it is simple and shows what the site is about. Only the E with the question mark in the background might be a bit hard to decipher.

tex
\documentclass[]{standalone}
\usepackage{tikz}
\definecolor{dred}{RGB}{159,57,61}
\pagecolor{gray!20!white}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[inner sep=0pt]
\node{\textcolor{dred}{\sffamily\bfseries\huge?}};
\node{\TeX};
% to get a square canvas
\node[rotate=90,transform shape]{\phantom{\TeX}};
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}


PNG at 300dpi:

![TeXlogo_300dpi.png](/image?hash=5bd66e956cc073e42f7f4f330bb23cd7780f707c3760e6e897bab0cc4135a7b7)

PNG with 24px:

## Old Version with non-bold question mark

PNG at 300dpi:

PNG with 24px:

![TeXlogo_24px.png](/image?hash=29ffcc19ad048b7b0300aa0b805b0c910bae14f927412899a3ac74db33e12ec8)
Caleb
# Braces

Just an empty pair of braces, perhaps colored to match the site.

# **{ }**

...because TeX without braces is like a duck without water.
What should the site icon be?
Huhh I did not thought about it
JouleV
@Raaja I like the idea, but honestly I can't see how the lion can fit into a favicon :)
samcarter
...
This is a very cute one!
@marmot @Skillmon ^^^
samcarter
![document.png](/image?hash=1a7c7995c5764abec0000116e6035147cf535cf9e17f26da0d068a7a93bcaa2e)
It's part of ducksay (\ducksay[rabbit,no-bubble,no-tail]{} and a bit of cropping).
That's a good start!
![the_rabbit_for_the_hat.png](/image?hash=eced45c71485617d5111292e18bae242ec4d1fa6baed629d68e9a2c2627ad1ba) got you covered!
ooooohhhhhh
marmot
@samcarter Can we have tiny rabbit in the hat? (@Skillmon No! A rabbit which looks like a rabbit. ;-)
@marmot is no more, use @tallmarmot.
I uploaded the DEK duck as is from @samcarter's github.
Me too! <3
JouleV
@Caleb I just make the Knuth duck transparent. If the grey background is intentional, feel free to revert the edit.
samcarter
@marmot Will the snowbeing change to a puddle during summer?
samcarter
I like the small duck, the text is surprisingly good to read
But, I want it to be geeky and ducky and lovely :(
We should adapt...
I've also added a size-optimized small ducksay duck. Still the 24px version is only legible for people knowing what it says.
The icon of the site is too small whichever image you put in it
CarLaTeX
Let's try @Skillmon's TeX with question mark and see if it is visible
you mean 24px is too small and it is actually used at a larger size, or that the icon used is too small to be legible?
Skillmon
I'll add 24px versions to every answer, as already mentioned by others, we don't have to use the same logo for tab-symbols and somewhere else on page if we need another version in the future. So this is just to evaluate which logo we use in places where it'll be pretty small
CarLaTeX
The icon is too small!!!!
Could very well be true, I'm not a good judge for this, I looked at the icon so long today, I would probably still be able to read it with closed eyes :)
thanks for doing this. I still think that the TeX on the hat is too small to be easily readable on average distance (and man is my spelling terrible today...).
samcarter
 (I hope I got the size correctly from the html stuff...)
This would the icons in 24 pxiel
samcarter
![document copy 2.png](/image?hash=d01c50886aeeacc8412001ee87683458b8a6d859d68a08557dd2166cbf1077ec)![image.png](/image?hash=52a30175a4bd9073238af8f3bea2837bcd76547bb4f545f9bad50c36841a1947)![document copy.png](/image?hash=f7c73b9b02d5e3518309ad86f9fbad53810fb160803ad104c415341e012e97e3)![document.png](/image?hash=18ab761667ee22b92fa88f476a124229c0183e8225312e848409ac8c3d8773b4)
Skillmon
Has anybody of you really tested how our suggestions look like in the size of a tab-icon? For the tophead the result is that someone can see that there is something written on it, but without using a lens or getting really close to the display I don't think it's legible for everybody (actually I can read it, but hey, I know what it is supposed to be). I honestly think the speech bubble or just the logo is our best bet so far (the braces are used by SE).
OK :)
\TeX looks great for serif computer modern font, but serif font will not look good at very tiny sizes like the chat icon on the top right, so I switched to sans serif, but in sans serif \TeX still uses the hard coded kerning from the serif font which will shift the E too much to the right ... fiddling 10 minutes with the placement of 3 nodes was the easy alternative
Of course! Btw, instead of three nodes with T-E-X I would do one node with \TeX
Let's wait at least until the TikZpert gets here. Maybe he also has an idea.
The version with colour is perfect. I think we should choose it as site image!
:) thanks! Check out the second version with colour
CarLaTeX
Top hat is gorgeous!
:) I was just too lazy to draw it myself
Caleb
Leave it to LaTeX to draw a tophat using a duck. I think that pretty much sums up why TeX needs a Q&A site in the first place.
samcarter
no quintillion of duck packages :( This sounds bad. I have to write another one!
It was a rough estimate of something clearly larger than five and probably less then a quintillion.
where did this number come from? What did you query? Or was this just an overestimation?
thanks for advertising them though :)
samcarter
@Skillmon This would be the perfect logo for both of us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambiguous_image#/media/File:Duck-Rabbit_illusion.jpg
:)
stop advertising my packages, that's my job: @Caleb do you already know the duckuments package? It is great!
Maybe not 50, but several :) Do you already know the duckuments package? It is great!
Caleb
Packages that is. I know there were at least 50 ducks.
Caleb
I'll be honest. I know there was a package for ducks. I did not know there were fifty of them.
CarLaTeX
@Skillmon <3 Love the idea!
sounds good.
@Skillmon I like the ducksay proposal a lot! I'm just afraid it won't be easy to see if very tiny. How about a dual approach: Use the complete duck for contexts where it is big enough to recognise and only the speech bubble for tiny icons. This way we could also geek out and re-use the speech bubble with other things
we could also do this with the DEK duck, tikzducks supports speech bubbles as well.
@Skillmon I like option 4, but I don't think it will fit in the site icon very well. Maybe later when the site layout gets some design love.
with {} we might get in trouble with stackexchange.
{} is already the logo of TeX.SE, I would like to choose something different.
Vote away. I'm actually good either way so I'm okay with not getting a vote (since I posted both answers).