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paul holmes (imported from SE)
The following EXCEPT query produces a logical plan with a seemingly purposeless projection. This also occurs for INTERSECT.

What is the purpose of the projection? e.g. Is there a different EXCEPT query where the outer projection would specify something?

Query:

```
use AdventureWorks2017

select p.ProductId
from Production.Product as p
except
select pinv.ProductID
from Production.ProductInventory as pinv
option (recompile, querytraceon 8605, querytraceon 3604)
```

Converted Tree:

```
    LogOp_Select

        LogOp_GbAgg OUT(QCOL: [p].ProductID,) BY(QCOL: [p].ProductID,)

            LogOp_Project -- << ?? PASSIVE PROJECTION ??

                LogOp_Project

                    LogOp_Get TBL: Production.Product(alias TBL: p) Production.Product TableID=482100758 TableReferenceID=0 IsRow: COL: IsBaseRow1000 

                    AncOp_PrjList 

                AncOp_PrjList 

            AncOp_PrjList 

        ScaOp_Exists 

            LogOp_Select

                LogOp_Project

                    LogOp_Get TBL: Production.ProductInventory(alias TBL: pinv) Production.ProductInventory TableID=914102297 TableReferenceID=0 IsRow: COL: IsBaseRow1001 

                    AncOp_PrjList 

                ScaOp_Comp x_cmpEq

                    ScaOp_Identifier QCOL: [p].ProductID

                    ScaOp_Identifier QCOL: [pinv].ProductID
```
Top Answer
Conor Cunningham MSFT (imported from SE)
There are various things we do inside the query optimizer that don't really have a reason that we can explain externally.

The projects you see in the optimizer eventually get rewritten at the end of the optimizer to "flatten" the expressions.  The optimizer has things in the search that are part of how the code is implemented that may introduce extra projects that don't really do anything functionally but do allow us to stitch things together where one subtree was created in one part of the optimizer but is used later in a place where it was not originally intended.

There are some physical implementation details that can cause this to happen.  None of them matter for users in terms of plan quality (in almost any case - we have done work to make these not matter in the search).

So, I'd just wave my hand and say "you don't need to see his identification.  He can go about his business.  Move along" ;)
Answer #2
Paul White (imported from SE)
I don't have a fully satisfying answer to this, but `DISTINCT` is translated to a project plus group-by aggregate.

Both [`EXCEPT` and `INTERSECT`][1] come with an implied `DISTINCT` on the first table expression. It is this `DISTINCT` that results in the 'blank' project in the tree. It is harmless.

If you write a `DISTINCT` as the equivalent `GROUP BY`, you don't see the blank project. The project appears after the aggregate:

```
SELECT DISTINCT P.ProductID
FROM Production.Product AS P
OPTION (QUERYTRACEON 3604, QUERYTRACEON 8605);
```
```none
LogOp_GbAgg OUT(QCOL: [P].ProductID,) BY(QCOL: [P].ProductID,)
    LogOp_Project
        LogOp_Project QCOL: [P].ProductID
            LogOp_Get TBL: Production.Product(alias TBL: P)
            AncOp_PrjList 
        AncOp_PrjList 
    AncOp_PrjList
```
```
SELECT P.ProductID
FROM Production.Product AS P
GROUP BY p.ProductID
OPTION (QUERYTRACEON 3604, QUERYTRACEON 8605);
```
```none
LogOp_Project QCOL: [P].ProductID
    LogOp_GbAgg OUT(QCOL: [P].ProductID,) BY(QCOL: [P].ProductID,)
        LogOp_Project
            LogOp_Get TBL: Production.Product(alias TBL: P)
            AncOp_PrjList 
        AncOp_PrjList 
    AncOp_PrjList
```


  [1]: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/t-sql/language-elements/set-operators-except-and-intersect-transact-sql

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